money to help people along that be to be able to say that they feel secure. take medicare, another program that we will be remedying with a insurance bill and bring it into solvency but the fact is people who can't get healthcare, which is true from greece, cannot work and ultimately cost more to the society, not just in lack of productivity but the cost of being involved in serious conditions and complicated surgery. so what i'm saying is -- >> neil: all good ideas but how do we pay for it? everyone things the elderly should be protected. it's good to provide healthcare to everybody. but what the devil in the details is the criticism of you guys, republicans an democrats, is that you haven't figured out how to pay for it. >> i'm telling you that if you read the economists and listen