programs bglore g.d.tor i should say there was one that started before with hoovetor but debt wasn't a problem. it wasn't even on the radar when we started the massive tempansion of government. people didn't have -- our grand parents didn't have debt like we do now. they didn't hbeape credit cards. f.d.r., man he spent and spent and spent and spent. ãand obut he did one thing that obama hasn't done. he actually put an engine, much to rin, i don't think he inten, the d on doing this. he put an engine in the car. f asut t. just wanted pnvelic control of everything. including energy. gee, that sounds familiar. in 1932, he seetd electricien? is no longer a luxury. it's a deficit necessity. he publicly attackedbeatilien? companies calling them noogll the 1935 "state of the union" speech. the same year his federal power gett, federal power act gave government the authority to review and approve the rate charge by pnvelic utilities in connection with the transmission or sell of electricien?.