fewer airlines, doesn't that mean fares go up? >> definitely a possibility. i think domestically you have enough low-cost competition with the southwests of the world, internationally i think there's more potential for fares to go up. jon: each of these airlines lost a couple billion dollars last year, to my understand, so what's the advantage in putting them together? are they able to shave enough work force down that they can save money sh? >> yeah. i don't think you'll see that much work force shaved off because the pilots, the gate attendants that they need, i think from management you will see some cutting, but overall it's a much stronger industry. it's an industry that's really struggled. jon: well, it is, but is it good for the passengers? i guess that that's the bottom line. >> fares could go up, but if you're a united or continental