red-hot. their defense we didn't make money on the mortgage mess, it's now full of holes. from e-mails bragging about making a killing on the housing market's decline. in october, '07, the cfo boasted, quote, sounds like we will make some serious money. and besides that, one of the biggest guys at goldman wrote, quote, of course we didn't dodge the mortgage mess, we lost money, but made more than we lost because of shorts. now, shorting is basically pet betting an investment will lose money. the white house now targeting wall street as it tries to push through financial regulations, indicates goldman might be a poster child for street excess. >> the ceo of goldman is not going to win any popularity contests when over a period that ordinary americans pensions, houses, et cetera, were collapsing in value, they were actually making significant money off of it. >> goldman has some supporters waiting to hear more. >> there are some conflicts of interest that can exist and do