gives the federal government control over immigration and also the 14th amendment on reasonable search and seizure. does it violate the constitution? >> it is a matter of federal preemption over state law. i'm a liberal on immigration. i supported the bush mccain proposals and took a lot of grief from my conservative friends on this. this is not draconian. will a few people get stopped perhaps because some policeman has reasonable suspicion that is person is illegal? will he be stopped and asked to provide a driver's license? >> yes. >> that is the huge civil rights violation that is going to occur five times or eight times in arizona. there are huge burdens on the hospitals and crimes being committed near the border and it is not unreasonable for arizona. here is what a politician said