he would like to transfer to a defined contribution plan. >> >> he said if they did that you wouldn't need cuts in education. i think it is aç strong argument for him and other governors. >> most amazing thing we learned when governor christie visited us this week in the newark, new jersey school system they are spending $22,000 per student only a quarter of them are graduating. >> paul: money is not a problem in newark. do you think the democratic legislature is going to give ground on this? >> i i think it might happen this time. the teachers union do not have a sympathetic view. i have a lot of family members andç relatives that have taken pay freezes and seen benefits cut and these people are arguing we should be immune. it is not an argument that flies when you have a budget gap more than a third of your budget.