>> mike: we are back live on this saturday night. everybody is talking about the impact health care is going to have in washington. what we haven't heard a lot about is the direct effect of the bill that is going to happen to the states across the country. why aren't we seeing more governors making public statements about how they are backing the obama plan? why are 36 states threatening to sue if it is passed on the federal level. joining me pennsylvania governor ed rendell in favor of the democrats' bill and south dakota governor mike rounds who opposes it both by way of disclosure. both friends of mine longtime colleagues and i know they are going to shoot straight with mel. i start with you governor rendell. how are you and tell me why you support in bill and what you think it is going to do for pennsylvania? >> mike, bob laid out reasons democrats are for this bill. within important one he left out, it -- one important one he left out.