the mission accomplished sign? >> shepard: who can forget that. >> it was mission almost accomplished and i always get nervous when i hear that because the other thing happening is with al qaeda underground in basements, the homegrown terror phenomenon as spread and we've seen what katherine airline was talking -- cathrine herridge was talking. >> that's harder to deal with. >> yes, but they don't have the veteran skills and training that were provided to the hardcore al qaeda people but it's a concern, definitely. we saw it with the christmas underwear bomber and in almost blowing up the subway. that is long campaign against extremism and there's no moment you can declare victory. what leon panetta saidas good