we don't think the answer is to have the government take over the health care system. >> greta: two questions in terms of whether it is a gimmick or not, one is that the cadillac tax which is supposed to drive much of the funding doesn't go into effect until 2018 we are all going to be gone by that point, i'll probably be gone as well. the second thing is the doctor fix under medicare. estimated to be about 214 or 215 billion dollars give or take 10 billion dollars. that's not included in that >> that's right. >> greta: it seems a little schiffy all these numbers. will we ever get a true cbo good score? or is it a gimmick? >> no because cbo score what legislation you put in front of them. you can put smoke and errors in the legislation. the cbo has to score what place in front of them. anybody can manipulate the score based upon the legislation you write.