insurance companies come forward should -- get money for, should go to the patient. so i think we can do all of these things, but if we're going to eliminate the waste, fraud and abuse in medicare, it does mean we're going to cut some of that out, and when i hear my friend dave camp say you cannot cut money out of medicare, we don't want to cut the good stuff that you point out or prevent -- or add prevention, but if one third, if what senator coburn says, that one third of medicare doesn't go to patient care, you can't just get up there and say we don't want to cut anything out of medicare. we want to cut the bad stuff and keep the good stuff and i think that's where we can find common ground on some of the things you've mentioned, some of the things that are in that bill, and i hope at least in this area we can move forward that way, because frankly the republican party has always stood for getting rid of the waste, fraud and abuse in the system, in '97, it of the centerpiece of your program and all of the