>> sean: we are back with the producers of that fill, dave b3ñ ban. we were talking in the break about what it would reallyw#b take to get america's fiscal house in order. it will take dramatic changes. it would take a change in attitude, in the culture. you think it can happen? >> it has to happen. for us to continue as this great nation, it has to happen. i believe it will happen. it takes politicians with courage. it takes politicians with conviction. i believe that there are men and women out there that can did it. barack obama is simply trying to be all things to all people. i think he's trying to spend and his way out of this problem. >> sean: i was right about obama from the beginning, deaf -- rigidize log, a sense of tone deafness.