wanting to know how to support one arm of the group with legitimate legal activities and not contribute to the terrorist part of what they do. justice encyclopedia says look at hamas. you can't say i'm going to give to them and not expect them to use the money for criminal activity. congress was clear and he believes there's no way to separate the two sides of one organization. >> the humanitarian groups argue they could turn these groups around. >> they say they want to help with activities to train them too use a different means to reach goals, the constitution projects is one of the groups. sharon bradford franklin had this to say. >> they want to provide training in human rights activities, in peace building activities. so the medical services, right out in only exemption under the material support statute are for