listening, and that's what sparked the outrage. what are you talking about. these people are trying to kill us. they are terrorists, it just hence to fuel the idea that, you know what? the obama administration is not at war despite what the president said, that his words don't match the behavior and policies. i'm sorry, bill. >> bill: should they fire brennan? should he just shut up? what should happen to him because he is hurting the president? >> he needs to be reigned in. >> bill: reigned in? >> he is not the spokesman. he is not the guy you want as a spokesman. let me quickly adhere in response to something mary katharine said. i don't think the man she called darth vader, dick cheney, is the best spokeman at this point for criticizing the obama administration's activities because -- >> bill: i thought darth vader was me. i thought she was calling me darth vader. [ laughter ] >> all he does is credit size -- >> bill: he does have credibility. he is a tough guy. and as human pointed -- hume