the economy or getting people back to work, but they are really, really good at media strategy. that makes me feel a lot better about what's going on in washington. >> bill: yeah, i bet. buff i think that biden did a decent job in what he was asked to do. >> he did. he did, and i would say in direct answer to your question it was a stalemate in that sense. >> bill: right. i think cheney won by a little bit, and i will tell you why. when cheney comes on, he has got one big cannon. we weren't attacked again. and he plays it, and he plays it well. so, when he talks, it's like e.f. hutton. people shut up and they listen to the man because he has got that. >> very briefly. >> bill: go. >> i agree with you, but i think the reason that you think he came off slightly better and the reason, probably, lots of people. >> bill: i know, because i agree with him more. >> yes, that's it. and that makes sense.