bad. flirting with the possibility of ugly stuff. i have don't want to discount the possibility but i hope not. >> glenn: how do we avoid that here? what can we do today? besides just cleaning out our own life. what should we be doing today? >> we should not assume or take on more debt. >> what about the stimulus packages. if you stop sending this money, the whole economy stops? >> that is good to reboot the system. >> i would pull the lever that says reboot. >> glenn: you would? you would too? >> yeah, in the end, maybe a long end, it will be okay. we have the resource ability, will -- >> we have people. i feel like we are on the titanic and it's the white star line and everyone is worried about saving the boat. it's the people.