but the chinese keep raising this and saying this is one of the reasons they are mad at us right now. >> they haven't been raising it for a while now they are raising again. they are raising it obviously, because their relationship with us has deteriorateed. but i do not think it is it self one of the reasons for the deterioration. but it is there for them to drag out of the garbage can again and use against us. but it is not the reason -- one of the many reasons for their difficulties with us right now, awful lot going on in the way of trade relations, problems there. and also, let's face it, i think the chinese tack a look at how much money we owe 'em and that has made them a little nervous too because they are not sure whether it will get repaid in time. so i think there's some real problems with the chinese, but i don't think it is because of the arms sales. >> greta: senator eagleburger,