people who can say i bring in a ton of money for the company and if i want to fly on the fancy jet, i will fly it and if you want to fire me, fire me and it is not that kind of situation and looks like they are behaving like it is. >> right. and in terms of bottom line, okay, we spent an enormous amount of money and what did we get for it in the sense of copenhagen we got absolutely nothing. there is no treaty, no meaningful agreement. and the other thing, i think that taxpayers need to understand is there is no transparency on these congressional travel expenses and we need to know what they are doing and all of the money and all of the cost of the military jets they are using. martha: you are right, anybody ought to log onto a government web site, gov.com or whatever and say what did we spend on this and should be able to find out where this money went, we have to go but thank you so much for bringing this to our attention. bill: did a great job. martha: $8,000 for four people traveling. bill: five night minimum and what company in america will allow you to book a hotel for