tell the story and we could sit here and put up owe numbers and people at home could figure that all out. what is going on here? >> well, we have a congress that is complete out of touch with the american people. i mean, you know, to fly this many people to copenhagen for a climate change summit which produced absolutely nothing in terms of -- i mean, anything meaningful. it is pretty astonishing in the current climate, if you will, economic climate i'm talking about. it is amazing they would even consider doing this and, frankly, you may have the house numbers and that is hard to come by and you don't get a fully detailed account even with the house numbers, senate has not even put their stuff up for our review and we don't know how much the administration spent. so, this is going -- a huge number. if we were to get to the bottom of it. martha: you know, there are two sides of this. what are these congressmen and, you know, the rest of them, as you, thinking, of spending $2200, a night, to go to this climate change conference, there is not a corporation in america,