none of us are perfect. and i think the decision to have these trials in new york as i said sounded good in theory way back when but in practice it was not the right thing to do. we run the risk here of elevating form over substance. three tie yearia, where can you try them quick and as inexpensively as possible and where do you not jeopardize american security any more than necessary. whechoose that type of location and that type of trial that accomplishes those three things. >> chris: do you stand by the attorney general even in his decision to read abdulmutallab his miranda rights after only 50 minutes of interrogation? >> i know that the fbi agents who interrogated him who were the best in the world said they got the information he needed and he will certainly be convicted as a result of the court proceedings. >> chris: the former cia director saying it is not a matter of conviction, it is a