before gold we may head we've got to say that gold that that trade tensions hoppe return to a seamer and see is worried about international development such as the a slowdown in global economy. was a least a hollow there for us in new york thank you. the 12th time was not the charm apparently the latest round of u.s. china trade talks indeed without a deal and with both sides hardening their positions it looks like any agreements could be a long ways off. a few pleasant smiles an exchange of niceties then u.s. trade representative robert light ties are in treasury secretary stephen minucci got down to business with chinese vice premier her. there was little expectation of an agreement being reached before hand and the likelihood of that probably wasn't helped by the coinciding harsh criticism of china's economic policies by president trump one of his complaints that china makes promises but fails to follow through.