make sense of it. is the project director for west africa for the crisis group he joins me now from brussels welcome soon. africa so you organization has come out on record saying that the hardest insurgency in mali and the government's military operations against it are exacerbating that into communal violence can you explain that. well it's it's rather simple each side being the g i d e r. my and authorities are trying to use local proxies the jihad he basically trained to get a fruit in central money and started 4 years ago to. recruit among the sunni communities among which they have been you know more successful among other communities for a different kind of reason and one of them being that one of the leaders of the