greeting parishioners at the entrance to the theater at the time when he said there was credible evidence that the film was at the western doors of the fact rick's cafe jewel in melbourne which was some distance from the sacristy where the alleged offenses were supposed to have taken place up there on the grounds of a bill to one of the logs that the judge should have allowed a video reconstruction of when everybody was in the cathedral at that time and that video reconstruction should have been played to the jury and finally the the the the pillars of lawyer argues that hell was not properly arraigned in other words he was not given the opportunity to plead not guilty before the trial before the jury at the beginning of the trial. ok roger tim you tell us what it was so much riding on issues of credibility and some of the technical issues you mention is as well how long this appeal is going to last and how's it being received in australia