politics talk about that we have simon young from the political desk here with us good morning simon here in germany the big parties have been dealt a real blow what kind of impact is this going to have generally will start there on on domestic policies yeah i think it's going to lead to a discussion again that's been happening over the last few months about the party leadership in particular and there's a big meeting of the of the leaders of the government parties to softer noon in angola medical's chance to really but these are appalling results for the 2 government parties conservatives and social democrats that would result in a national poll ever they lost 20 percent of support between them which is quite incredible basically bad for the s.p. day they vote for instance just to pick out one highlight they've they've also done very badly in braman a state where they've been in power for a 17 years and they've lost control and that just tells you know that