american litigation standards and things could well get much worse for the chemicals giant. this is not the end of this litigation this is the beginning there are tens of thousands of people out there probably 203040000 people and i have continuously told they are and monsanto were coming after them investors seem to have come to the conclusion that buyers woes won't end anytime soon since its takeover of monsanto back in june of 2018 virus shares have plummeted by more than 40 percent the company says that it will appeal the decision and continues to deny that roundup causes cancer but increasingly it appears by a might have seriously underestimated the long term cost of its monsanto takeover. of a more i'm joined now by john rountree managing partner at a double sector consulting firm specializing in pharmaceutical and medical products companies that have you with us it looks more and more that it was