and joining me now is g.w. brussels bureau chief max hoffman and max i understand that you've actually heard more on the story haven't you. yeah well we had the official press conference by the e.u. commission who of course was asked a couple of questions not only by the w on that story they didn't say much i'm afraid to say here they acknowledge that there was and this is how they the wording is the there was a recent change in the way that diplomatic precedence list is implemented by the united states protocol and that just means you know which ambassador takes precedence over another ambassador so that is implicitly confirming that there was a change and then they also said that they are still currently discussing with the relevant services in the administration possible implications for the e.u. delegation in washington so not much there just a hint that yes there is something actually ongoing and that's what was the mood there i mean how has all of this gone down in brussels. well most of people this