denies accusations he wants to foment violence but he accuses beijing that eroding freedoms in hong kong and says the only way for the territory to get full democracy is to break away from china caused. he says he was inspired to set up his party after the failure of what became known as the umbrella protest movement back in twenty fourteen demonstrators there also accuse china every meeting on a promise supposed ptolemy and interfering too much in the running of pan kong. but china and its supporters such as these demonstrators in hong kong last month i determined to take a hard line beijing says it will be no tolerance for any groups advocating for separation from the mainland it say's such acts should and will be punished. but joining me here the big table is bernhard barnes she is a senior asia analyst at the battle's mint foundation here in for a live bernhard's going to have you back on the show you know this is the first