people who live there not for one religion over another that's the only way that israel can seems like the hopeless optimist is you not me but me just for a second visitor i have as an outsider at this time of celebration jubilation in israel the seventieth anniversary a lot of people are talking up outside is a talking about the achievements that israel has made has made it you know i mean you're you're you're dismissing the end of the very notion already been able to talk about the flourishing economy people talk about democracy in israel do you dismiss all of this out of hand and do you know what would you say that similar achievements haven't necessarily be made on the palestinian side because the israelis have been. there are not you said i that peter peter there are not two sides there is not israel and there is palestine israel is the master israel controls everything they occupy palestine powerless thought if anything is a state of mind it is not anywhere on a map to be found it has no controls israel controls everything so let's get that