because they need to renew themselves the banking business look at commercial bank it's in a disaster still situation still but also the whole car industry and who if not somebody from the outside could bring in new thinking what german industry is no never any good in letting outside is in really and the not really comfortable with disruption all these problems problems in those companies symptom of some to magic for a larger more general problem in german industry well if you if you really look at the long history of scandals. at folks going back kill ninety nine hundred ninety six and inductive bank rather be the last decade. you see that those companies. the sites