a barn or he and another prominent member of the party leadership. regional leader of the s.p.d. clearly stated why they believe that the s.p.d. should enter those formal coalition talks with the conservatives they have in particular mentioned that the party could change more within a government than if they went into the opposition in particular in two areas one the keystrokes of democratic areas in the social justice for example pensions or health or other areas like that education and second one in europe that's one that martin shows himself has been very on many occasions stress that it's particularly important for the social democrats of this is not only about the party not only about germany it is also about the future of europe he stressed that him self and this is also part of his speech here in bonn there's talk of a yes vote but with conditions there are some s.p.d. delegates who've said they're they're already going to vote no from their point of