that would really help to move things forward in these of the investigations the big question hanging over all of this though is whether what folks are going did is actually even illegal in europe now it is definitely in the u.s. but of course the consequences are different in the u.s. folks aren't can't just fix the cars that's why they have to pay out huge sums but in europe they say we can just make software updates because the requirements in europe emissions requirements are a lot less so essentially they are getting away without massive investigations of massive prosecutions like there is in the u.s. now you mentioned the software updates in europe has cost a billions to settle the case in the u.s. could the sentencing of all of it be the end of the diesel gate scandal for folks like. i highly doubt it now make no mistake this thirty billion dollars in fines and rebates and so on that they're having to do is just a drop in the ocean for them if you look at last year after paying all of these fines their shareholders still made five billion dollars in earnings it won't be