talk to vladimir putin like she can for instance or kenya imagine the man remote from sort of figuring out how to solve the ukraine crisis i mean she really does have the most experience of all european leaders and so it's a ton of them it's paris and berlin together that are needed in europe alone he will be really very much alone at home. and he can step into her shoes however i think jackson's right it's much too early to write her off even though european the european union is nervous tonight and everybody's things this is something that we did not want we did not need and there hooping still hoping for a good outcome i think everyone would agree this is something that we did not need that is for sure or a drop of easel in brussels and jack's genes in washington to both of you thank you for being on the day we appreciate it.