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of course, we have the fire jumpers and guys going out and dealing with natural disasters all over. you guys are often at them. but this picture that i'd like to go back to. this is the side of the building, obviously. there is a lot of that is called widowmaker material, where it could fall on them. they have to remove it. but if you can go back to that silhouette picture. it hit so many of the people there, who were at 9/11. what does this mean, to you, to see this effort in this circumstance? >> it probably gives them a reflection, back, to that time for that period of moment as the sun was setting. as it did for you, caught your attention, it sure caught mine when you showed that to me. it was the reflection of the leftover of tower 1. skeleton, not a lot left of tower one. we are on the east side of that tower walking into that pile every day. so even one of the pictures i took has that same reflection. and, you know, a moment in time. gives you -- goes back to that. and i think they might reflect that. but the pouring out of the people, the pouring out of the responders, the pouring out from everyone seems to be pretty close to what we saw back 9/11,

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