is this it? if it is, the vaccines are very protective. as the virus spreads more and more, if not, more mutations can occur. we may get more mutations and more strains. so that becomes a potential risk to everyone. going into the late summer, early fall, we'll probably see some bump-ups because of this particular virus. >> is the vaccination rate in this country high enough to prevent a big surge? >> i've gotten so used to not painting this country with one brush anymore, poppy. it totally depends. let me show you quickly the vaccination protection which is the good news in all this. they pooled this data from pfizer and astrazeneca. you're talking about vaccines distributed around the world. you get good protection against both the alpha which is the uk variant and the delta, the one we're talking about. by the way, you've got to get two shots. we know one shot gives you far less protection. poppy, to your point, if you look at a more granular level at