i think it was a hundred continues nights. >> right. >> i'm sure they have been treated with degrading behavior on the part of the protesters. but i guess when you analyze the conduct, you've got to go frame-by-frame-by-frame and look at just that incident. >> well, you do. and, you know, i watched that interview last night and there were a couple of things the union president said that i believe with. i believe they were deployed 150 straight days. that is very difficult for people. the stress is enormous when you have to deal with that sort of thing for that length of time. they do need body cameras. in my opinion, there is no accuse for the city of portland not to provide body cameras for the officers. that would capture the event from beginning-to-end, so you get a complete picture of what actually took place. but having said that, for me, there is no excuse for walking away. that is not how you handle this. you just don't do that. i mean, you have an obligation. you have a responsibility. you took an oath when you were appointed as a police officer and you have to live up to that.