essentially stay the same that's a good thing for putin, not a good thing for biden. >> well, to a certain extent, yes, but i do think that, number one, president putin does want to be on the world stage. i mean, the way that he depicts and russia depicts russia itself and president putin is a major power, whereas at this moment we know that probably the biggest concern of the united states is china. so russia is happy to be on the stage and president putin and then i think, you know, when the united states talks about red lines, vladimir putin has some red lines of his own and they deal with the neighborhood, ukraine, belarus, and his message is i've got my area of interest, you should not be interfering. and those are really serious red lines for president putin. >> jill, you say that the president the u.s. team should be wary of any last minute