general william barr and jeff sessions testify under oath about that they knew about these secret subpoenas. >> let the administration did, the justice department, the leadership of the former president, goes even beyond richard nexten. richard nexten had an enemy list. this is about undermining the rule of law and for the attorneys general, barr and sessions, at least two, to say that they didn't know anything about it is beyond belief. so, we will have to have them come under oath to testify about that. >> democratic congresswoman pramila jayapal who sits on house judiciary joins us now. great to see you, congresswoman. >> great to see you. >> sgd answer that. >> i'm not going to get it. >> let's start with what we're talking about. do you believe that something -- an operation of this scale, where journalists, democrats on