get a fisa warrant. just because -- the bar here isn't whether or not the grand jury subpoenas were warranted, that's a very low bar of probative recognition. it's that they kept expanding and kept looking even after senior staffers said there's nothing here. that's the suspicious part and they happen to be the people that president trump hated most. >> well, two things on that point, number one, i speak for myself, what people say in the party, that's up to them. number two, as somebody who is actually pretty conservative, we'll talk about that in the next part of this interview, i've always been concerned about fisa warrants. not just when it comes to situations like that, but across the board, since the patriot act was passed. that's been my position when it comes to fisa. all i'm saying is this, this is new information. we haven't had an opportunity for it to be fully investigated. there's been no other sources that have come forward, to my knowledge. i'm not the reporter. i don't know what they have. one thing we also got to keep in mind, if you go back to 2017,