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situation in the first place -- >> you're going a step further than president trump has in suggesting that he should stop those. this president has not said anything suggesting that these are counterproductive to getting into to a denuclearization deal, and i always like to have you on because you're the ranking republican on asia-pacific and nonproliferation in the house on that subcommittee so you have a different perspective. why isn't the president going as far as you are right now? he's meeting with him face-to-face, can he not turn to this friend who writes him letters and say stop it? >> well, for exactly those reasons. he's got inside information i don't have, so i don't know what his strategy, like i said in the beginning. this may be a strategy that he says will let him do this but we know what's coming underneath of this, and so i'm going to defer to the president on that, but i think for kim jong-un to be doing this, i think it's a very dangerous thing, and again, keep in mind, there were 12 nations that voted unanimously to put

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