now. so we believe that this male is in a certain part of the building, i won't tell you where they are, where he is right now so i don't endanger the officers on the scene in any way but it's a very volatile situation still unfolding. as a result, there is so much i can tell you about what is going on inside of the property say for the fact even when i was on scene, he fired multiple rounds, many of which struck the swat truck and buildings across the street and that's long after i got there long after it started so he was continued to fire. it is a grave concern to us, a grave concern to us but we're trying to communicate to him that we want him out safely. even going as far as telling him that the officers are going to be okay and that there is nothing that we can't work through but right now, we are not successful so i'm going to get back over there. i'll answer just a few questions and i got to get back over. >> [ indiscernible question ]