state of anxiety in the united states today. an inaction is not acceptable and so the president could ignore this at his peril. republicans can ignore it at their peril. the suburbs are already moving away from trump electorally because of his behavior, because of his actions, because of his incompetence, and you throw this into the mix, a bunch of moms who are really upset their kids can't be safe in schools and kids that are upset about it, i think it's going to move the needle on the election. >> there are a number of folks i've talked to, democrats who believe that, look, the nra has all these internal problems, there's infighting, budgetary issues, allegations are flying back and forth, lawsuits. do you believe they are still a power to be reckoned with that can basically squash this? >> i think their power is diminished because of their internal and external problems. but the anti-groups are so much stronger than they were when i started congress 17 years ago. and even five years ago.