ultimate ultimately turns out in career death or with the president turning on them. >> sure, anderson it's a pattern that's repeated and repeated and repeated. you know, when i wrote the title of the book, i thought this is a kind of principle that seems to be applying. it's to the point where it's basically like a natural law and it will always happen no matter who they are, no matter how secure they think they are unless their last name is trump, eventually he'll turn on everyone. he'll get board or restless or angry or they will say something with independent thugt ought or this idea they are against him and it's over. whether they die slow or fast, it's an open question. scaramucci, it took him a long time to find out this guy's knife is in his back and footprints are owl over him and realize this is a bad guy. trump will play the game saying people are desperate to be with