overseas, i hear a lot of laughter and it's not like laughing with us. >> i'll respond to that. it's really -- i've been in meetings where people didn't know i was the u.s. diplomat in the room and it's really interesting to hear what other nations say about us. behind our backs when they think we're not listening and it's not all positive. there is a belief in america. let me reaffirm that. and kind of just to circle back to the core job of a foreign service officer, of a diplomat is to represent america overseas to explain it and to defend america. i'm not sure right now that there is a cohaerent america to project the world. there is an america i believe in and i came home to fight for it. >> chuck park, thank you for talking to us. >> real pleasure. thank, anderson. >> up next, exclusive reporting that ties an epa decision