we were anticipated to be. it was supposed to be just a fairly quick -- we met with numerous people. we met with also the doctors, the nurses, the medical staff. they have done an incredible job. both places just incredible. and the enthusiasm, the love, the respect -- >> it's what we have come to expect of this president. it's all about him. one official at the el paso hospital tells cnn that eight of the patients did not want to meet with trump. and many on staff who interacted with him found he was lacking in empathy for the victims. all about him. and the importance of the size of the crowd. it's been that way since day one. as we know. it's an obsession with this president. remember when trump's first press secretary sean spicer said this about the size of the crowd at trump's inauguration? >> this was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration period, both in person and