now? you know his statement this morning from the campaign, same radical message. can they bet donald trump in a earlier? >> i think -- you know, donald trump is such, i view, a failure as a president. we had to address russia, but not with a tariff war. that was so crazy. so i think he's beatable by anybody. >> you mean china? >> i'm sorry, china. >> that's okay. >> but i think it's the sleep deprivation we all have this morning. >> i get it. >> i think they would have a harder time beating him than someone like myself. >> can they beat him? >> yeah, they can beat him. >> okay. let's talk finally about joe biden. so again, two guys from pennsylvania, two moderates, even though i know that's not the label you give yourself. how do you convince enough voters to give you their money and their support so that you're on the debate stages in the fall when they look at these numbers and they see joe biden more than 30 points ahead of you, governor. what is the story you need to tell? >> well, i've got to get my