the doubt. because when you throw out words like race ist and it doesn't really reach that level, it diminishes what that word means. this is an issue where those comments -- that's exactly what they are. and if this president is not racist, he should come out and say i am sorry, this is not what i meant by these words, but i haven't seen any of that. and that is really disheartening and it hurts not just americans, but the republican party and all of those people who are trying to promote those policies, trying to promote the fact that unemployment has gone down. >> he thinks it helps him because he thinks going deeper into that base helps him rather than hurts him. and i would say that most republicans are not racist. >> let's talk about all the postives things. let's go back to the postives. >> let's move on. we have the debate coming up tuesday and wednesday. when it comes to the race conversation coming up, former vice president is taking some incoming when it comes to racism, especially from cory