given the benefit of the doubt because when you throw out words like racist and they're not -- it doesn't really reach ha level it, diminishes what that word means. this is an issue where those comments, that's exactly what they are. if this president is not racist, he should come out and say i am sorry. this is not what i meant by these words. and but i haven't seen any of that. that is disheartening and it hurts not just americans but the republican party and all of those people who are trying to promote those policies trying to promote the fact that unemployment has gone down. >> he thinks going deeper into that base helps him rather than hurts him. i would say that most republicans are not racists. >> talk about all the positive things helps him. let's go back to the positive. >> we have the debate coming up tuesday and wednesday. when it comes to the race conversation playing out on the stage behind me, former vice president biden is taking something from cory booker.