the actual russian election interference and all the -- did the president dictating the lie about why donald trump jr. and jared kushner and paul manafort met. concocting this idea that it didn't have anything to do with attempted interference. >> it was all about lies, and eric swaul well raised all the lying that the trump administration did. their use of encryption devices and disruption of electronic messages. their destruction of their messages really behindered the investigation. overall here, i mean, just looking at that tweet from the president in all caps, makes me realize that the president's fighting one war and bob mueller's fighting another. and the president is a counter puncher, i think he felt today, this guy is like punching jell-o, it's easy, theres no problem here. he's never going to fight back. and mueller wasn't punching. he wasn't punching anything.