so forth, and they get addicted to these opiate prescription pain pills. and so we just encourage families that there's no shame with the disease of addiction, just like there is no shame in cancer or heart disease or diabetes. and so we have to -- we have to understand it is a disease, and as shelly said, we just really want to see -- we don't ever want to see this happen to another family. and so we just try to encourage and offer hope. >> well, it is hope united. and i think in so many ways you are offering hope to a number of people. and also giving them license to speak out and to know they're not alone. travis, shelly bornstein, it is a pleasure speaking with you. obviously, we wish it wasn't under these circumstances. but really appreciate everything you're doing. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> we appreciate the opportunity to be here. just moments ago, the governor of puerto rico speaking out about the mass protests there, calling for his resignation. hear why he says he will not step down.