understand what is in the document and mueller's testimony is the first step. it is not the last step. at the end of the day, robert mueller is -- we said earlier, it is like calling the police officer that investigated a crime whenever you're trying it in front of a jury. you might call the detective, but then you'll call all of the principle witnesses to tell the story for themselves. don mcgahn, hope hicks, cory lewandowski, we need those aligned as well. >> and we just had david cicilini on and he said does he need to go beyond the report and the congressman said no, he doesn't. what do you think? >> there is this belief amongst house democrats and a lot of aides that i've spoken with helping bosses prepare for next week, which they consider a big flash point in this whole rallying cry to impeach the president and that this is going to be a learning experience. we know that there are a number of republican lawmakers who haven't even read the mueller report so for americans not quite familiar with this, this