the federal judge, that the agent concluded about the calls. and they're right in the middle of all the calls. in other words, cohen is calling trump and hicks and then david at the american media company, the company that owned the inquirer, going back and forth with the opposing attorney representing stormy daniels. so it is very hard to see anything but the president being involved. >> so remember when the president said this on, aboard air force one? watch this. >> bunk the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? >> no, no. >> you have to ask michael cohen. michael is my attorney and you'll have to ask michael cohen. >> do you know where he got the money? >> i don't know. >> okay. so here's the thing. court filings show that he spoke to donald trump at least twice